Comments on: Dog Breeds for Hunting Rabbits and the Beagle Dog Breed http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed It's tough growing up Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:59:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Curtis M http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-496 Curtis M Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:24:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-496 No papers....that's enough said. Nobody cares your dog likes kids, most dogs do, nobody cares your dog is loving, most dogs are. In a Boxer fancier the #1 issue is working drive, then looks, sadly 99% of Boxers don't have the correct working attitude or structure...including yours...and yes I'm saying that without having ever seen your dog, the face you think $250 is too much for a pup and want to breed an unregistered female is more than enough to make my blind assumption a fact.<br><b>References : </b><br> No papers….that’s enough said. Nobody cares your dog likes kids, most dogs do, nobody cares your dog is loving, most dogs are. In a Boxer fancier the #1 issue is working drive, then looks, sadly 99% of Boxers don’t have the correct working attitude or structure…including yours…and yes I’m saying that without having ever seen your dog, the face you think $250 is too much for a pup and want to breed an unregistered female is more than enough to make my blind assumption a fact.
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]]> By: ~ La vita è misterioso ~ http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-495 ~ La vita è misterioso ~ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:22:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-495 You are in luck! My cousin has a gorgeous male that will be finishing his championship soon; his name is Rockin' Red Rambo out of Whin's Roguish Rake and Rossa Amorosa (you can check his hip and elbow scores here: http://www.offa.org/ and his eyes here: http://www.vmdb.org/cerf.html) He is 2 years, 7 months old, and has no instance of SAS or hypothyroidism in his pedigree, which as you know are common in the boxer. He has also just completed screening for his hips, elbows, eyes, and heart. He's never been bred, so of course is clear of sexually transmitted diseases too. I'm sure you're aware of the recommendations put out by the American Boxer Club: http://www.americanboxerclub.org/health-screening.html What about your female? Is she close to finishing her championship, and so that's why you're looking online for suitable studs? Or I suppose you've met some prospects already at the shows and are just waiting to get her hips, elbows, and eyes cleared, in addition the other genetic diseases that need to be screened for? Of course, my cousin might decide to go with a proven b****, to ensure that it goes smoothly, but it really depends upon conformation. Do you have some show win photographs to send me, in addition to casual shots? Her male is very lovely, but of course no dog is perfect and in my opinion could stand to use a b**** with tighter feet and more length in the back to improve the breed. Because that's why you're breeding, right? To improve the breed, because you love it so much? EDIT: I have to agree with Curtis. No papers - no breeding. Look, the whole purpose of showing dogs is to ensure that they are as close to breed standard as possible, and since form follows function, it ensures that the dog is healthy enough to perform its original function. Showing dogs is NOT about prancing around rings to win $$ (which is a negligible amount) or ribbons; that's just the natural outcome of ANY sporting event, you award the winner. It is to ensure that your boxer LOOKS like a boxer, has the CONFORMATION of a boxer, has the COLOR of a boxer, MOVES like a boxer, and is indeed a great representation of the breed. Otherwise, what are you breeding for? A kinda boxer-looking dog? A boxer with bad hips, a severe underbite, and cow hocks? A boxer with issues of skeletal structure couldn't perform its original job, and so shouldn't be bred - that's what showing aims to eradicate. There are many genetic diseases that boxers are prone to, some of which I mentioned above, that your girl may or may not have, you just don't know until she's tested properly. Your girl may be lovely, but without papers you cannot prove she is purebred (regardless of how she looks), and without that proof you cannot breed and contribute to the breed standard. You like boxers? You like how they all look, how their personalities are? That's called a breed standard and some good folks back in the day took the time to pick healthy dogs, breed them for the purpose of developing and cementing a breed, and that is what you like. Why would you detract from that by producing more poor quality dogs with genetic disease? You say you like beauty - well, inherited blindness, heart problems, and hip dysplasia sure ain't pretty to me! Good breeders start off by showing their dogs and finding other good breeders to LEARN from, to show them, hands-on, how to breed. Others just get the dogs to mate and then come whining here when their b**** is panting, hasn't produced pups in hours, and asks, "oh no, wutz wrong?!" Also, $200-300 for a dog is NOT a lot of money. Some shelters charge that much! Those $1,500 dogs from responsible breeders? Yes, they truly cost that much because the breeder pours tons of $$ into his/her dogs, for entering and traveling to shows, standard veterinary care, screening for genetic diseases, good food, whelping supplies, etc. It all comes out in the wash - that $1,500 puppy really did cost about $1,500 to produce. That's the difference between backyard breeders/puppy mills and good breeders. A $1,000 well-bred puppy is an investment and that money just goes back into the dogs. A $1,000 'designer' dog or badly bred purebred is a walking veterinary bill, and that money just goes into that person's wallet, not into care for their dogs.<br><b>References : </b><br> You are in luck!

My cousin has a gorgeous male that will be finishing his championship soon; his name is Rockin’ Red Rambo out of Whin’s Roguish Rake and Rossa Amorosa (you can check his hip and elbow scores here: http://www.offa.org/ and his eyes here: http://www.vmdb.org/cerf.html) He is 2 years, 7 months old, and has no instance of SAS or hypothyroidism in his pedigree, which as you know are common in the boxer. He has also just completed screening for his hips, elbows, eyes, and heart. He’s never been bred, so of course is clear of sexually transmitted diseases too. I’m sure you’re aware of the recommendations put out by the American Boxer Club: http://www.americanboxerclub.org/health-screening.html

What about your female? Is she close to finishing her championship, and so that’s why you’re looking online for suitable studs? Or I suppose you’ve met some prospects already at the shows and are just waiting to get her hips, elbows, and eyes cleared, in addition the other genetic diseases that need to be screened for?

Of course, my cousin might decide to go with a proven b****, to ensure that it goes smoothly, but it really depends upon conformation. Do you have some show win photographs to send me, in addition to casual shots? Her male is very lovely, but of course no dog is perfect and in my opinion could stand to use a b**** with tighter feet and more length in the back to improve the breed.

Because that’s why you’re breeding, right? To improve the breed, because you love it so much?

EDIT: I have to agree with Curtis. No papers – no breeding. Look, the whole purpose of showing dogs is to ensure that they are as close to breed standard as possible, and since form follows function, it ensures that the dog is healthy enough to perform its original function. Showing dogs is NOT about prancing around rings to win $$ (which is a negligible amount) or ribbons; that’s just the natural outcome of ANY sporting event, you award the winner. It is to ensure that your boxer LOOKS like a boxer, has the CONFORMATION of a boxer, has the COLOR of a boxer, MOVES like a boxer, and is indeed a great representation of the breed. Otherwise, what are you breeding for? A kinda boxer-looking dog? A boxer with bad hips, a severe underbite, and cow hocks? A boxer with issues of skeletal structure couldn’t perform its original job, and so shouldn’t be bred – that’s what showing aims to eradicate.

There are many genetic diseases that boxers are prone to, some of which I mentioned above, that your girl may or may not have, you just don’t know until she’s tested properly. Your girl may be lovely, but without papers you cannot prove she is purebred (regardless of how she looks), and without that proof you cannot breed and contribute to the breed standard.

You like boxers? You like how they all look, how their personalities are? That’s called a breed standard and some good folks back in the day took the time to pick healthy dogs, breed them for the purpose of developing and cementing a breed, and that is what you like. Why would you detract from that by producing more poor quality dogs with genetic disease? You say you like beauty – well, inherited blindness, heart problems, and hip dysplasia sure ain’t pretty to me!

Good breeders start off by showing their dogs and finding other good breeders to LEARN from, to show them, hands-on, how to breed. Others just get the dogs to mate and then come whining here when their b**** is panting, hasn’t produced pups in hours, and asks, "oh no, wutz wrong?!"

Also, $200-300 for a dog is NOT a lot of money. Some shelters charge that much! Those $1,500 dogs from responsible breeders? Yes, they truly cost that much because the breeder pours tons of $$ into his/her dogs, for entering and traveling to shows, standard veterinary care, screening for genetic diseases, good food, whelping supplies, etc. It all comes out in the wash – that $1,500 puppy really did cost about $1,500 to produce.

That’s the difference between backyard breeders/puppy mills and good breeders. A $1,000 well-bred puppy is an investment and that money just goes back into the dogs. A $1,000 ‘designer’ dog or badly bred purebred is a walking veterinary bill, and that money just goes into that person’s wallet, not into care for their dogs.
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]]> By: Horse Lover http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-494 Horse Lover Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:20:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-494 Yes, all pregnant female dogs should have a whelping box. The female also needs to be on a puppy formulated dog food. They need the extra nutrition until the pups are weaned.<br><b>References : </b><br> Yes, all pregnant female dogs should have a whelping box. The female also needs to be on a puppy formulated dog food. They need the extra nutrition until the pups are weaned.
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]]> By: SHOW BREEDERS SELL MUTANT PUPS. http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-493 SHOW BREEDERS SELL MUTANT PUPS. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:18:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-493 yes she needs a whelping box...i have 2 whelping boxes for my pomeranians...i have 2 bred to have pups in march...<br><b>References : </b><br>pom breeder i get TDs by show breeders and tree huggers because i don't breed by kennel club breed standards to parade around in a show ring for judges to get points ribbons or $50,000 best in show kennel club breed standards health>>>http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2008/12/08/animals-and-money-rest-of-english-speaking-world-horrified-by-bbc/print/ yes she needs a whelping box…i have 2 whelping boxes for my pomeranians…i have 2 bred to have pups in march…
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i get TDs by show breeders and tree huggers because i don’t breed by kennel club breed standards to parade around in a show ring for judges to get points ribbons or $50,000 best in show kennel club breed standards health>>>http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2008/12/08/animals-and-money-rest-of-english-speaking-world-horrified-by-bbc/print/

]]> By: Show Breeders sell awesome pups. http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-492 Show Breeders sell awesome pups. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:16:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-492 Why would you NOT use a whelping box? If you need to ask this question here, you should not be breeding.<br><b>References : </b><br> Why would you NOT use a whelping box?

If you need to ask this question here, you should not be breeding.
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]]> By: Mik http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-491 Mik Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:14:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-491 Don't be a backyard breeder because you never know if she has any genetic problems that might not show up on her but could on her pups. Just because she is purebred doesn't mean she's qualified to have puppies. It could even cause problems for the pups and even her.<br><b>References : </b><br> Don’t be a backyard breeder because you never know if she has any genetic problems that might not show up on her but could on her pups. Just because she is purebred doesn’t mean she’s qualified to have puppies. It could even cause problems for the pups and even her.
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]]> By: Kayla http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-490 Kayla Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:12:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-490 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOGS ARE EUTHANIZED EVERY YEAR BECAUSE OF OVER-BREEDING. If you breed your dog, you are only contributing to the problem. And why are you doing this, to make a little extra money? Try walking down the aisles of a local animal shelter, where 1/3 of the dogs are killed...THEN try convincing yourself that breeding your dog is a sound decision.<br><b>References : </b><br> HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOGS ARE EUTHANIZED EVERY YEAR BECAUSE OF OVER-BREEDING. If you breed your dog, you are only contributing to the problem. And why are you doing this, to make a little extra money? Try walking down the aisles of a local animal shelter, where 1/3 of the dogs are killed…THEN try convincing yourself that breeding your dog is a sound decision.
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]]> By: TK http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-489 TK Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:10:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-489 It is no different. A dog is a dog. Why do you want to breed her? You said she’s a great dog, so why are you risking her health with this idea? How does she compare to her breed standard? Has she been evaluated by competition or experts in the breed so you feel confident she will contribute to her breed? Is she at least two years old? Have you completed the health testing recommended for Boxers? No ethical breeder will allow you use their stud unless you’ve done at least this much. If you do go ahead and have her bred, in true backyard breeder fashion, then yes, she will require a whelping box. All those Beagles should have had whelping boxes too. I know a woman with over 50 years in Beagles and she’d rip you a new one if you didn’t have them whelping indoors within a secure whelping box. The box should be square and large enough for the b**** to stretch out. Three sides are high and one side is low enough that the pregnant b**** can step into it without jumping, so just under her bottom line. The whelping box is placed in a room that can be isolated or inside an exercise pen that can be secured. You can read more here http://www.k9web.com/dog-fa<br><b>References : </b><br> It is no different. A dog is a dog. Why do you want to breed her? You said she’s a great dog, so why are you risking her health with this idea? How does she compare to her breed standard? Has she been evaluated by competition or experts in the breed so you feel confident she will contribute to her breed? Is she at least two years old? Have you completed the health testing recommended for Boxers? No ethical breeder will allow you use their stud unless you’ve done at least this much.

If you do go ahead and have her bred, in true backyard breeder fashion, then yes, she will require a whelping box. All those Beagles should have had whelping boxes too. I know a woman with over 50 years in Beagles and she’d rip you a new one if you didn’t have them whelping indoors within a secure whelping box. The box should be square and large enough for the b**** to stretch out. Three sides are high and one side is low enough that the pregnant b**** can step into it without jumping, so just under her bottom line. The whelping box is placed in a room that can be isolated or inside an exercise pen that can be secured. You can read more here
http://www.k9web.com/dog-fa
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]]> By: dolly http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-488 dolly Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:08:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-488 *Rolls eyes at previous answers* I don't know why people can't just answer a simple question. Yes, you will need a whelping box. Make it at least twice the length of the mom and wide enough for her to fully stretch out. The whelping box should also be high enough that a puppy can't jump out. A nice one will have a door that you can open and close, so when the puppies are larger you can shut it and they can't get out.<br><b>References : </b><br> *Rolls eyes at previous answers* I don’t know why people can’t just answer a simple question.

Yes, you will need a whelping box. Make it at least twice the length of the mom and wide enough for her to fully stretch out. The whelping box should also be high enough that a puppy can’t jump out. A nice one will have a door that you can open and close, so when the puppies are larger you can shut it and they can’t get out.
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]]> By: Cookie http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed/comment-page-1#comment-487 Cookie Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:06:59 +0000 http://www.giantkid.net/hunting/dog-breeds-for-hunting-rabbits-and-the-beagle-dog-breed#comment-487 And you want to breed why?????? To better the line your dog came from? To get a puppy like the mother (almost impossible)??? To make money????(forget that) You have many people committed to buying a puppy? Of course your boxer has had 2 heats already, and you have a wonderful male picked out, don't you? Now, how about tests for the Boxer heart problem that is very very common in many boxer lines. Of course you've had her tested and cleared for that, right? Male too? Have you had a conversation with the owner of the male line and again with the breeder of your bitch and have names of people owning puppies from them that you can check up on?//// Guess you're all set then. good luck<br><b>References : </b><br>Breeder and obedience trainer for 40 years And you want to breed why??????
To better the line your dog came from? To get a puppy like the mother (almost impossible)???
To make money????(forget that) You have many people committed to buying a puppy?
Of course your boxer has had 2 heats already, and you have a wonderful male picked out, don’t you?
Now, how about tests for the Boxer heart problem that is very very common in many boxer lines.
Of course you’ve had her tested and cleared for that, right? Male too? Have you had a conversation with the owner of the male line and again with the breeder of your bitch and have names of people owning puppies from them that you can check up on?////
Guess you’re all set then. good luck
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